Foreign Men Picking Up
This checklist is written up for you to protect
yourself and your assets during your merrymaking sessions of
romancing, bedding, and possibly impregnating a Thai woman.
Caveat emptor! As for actually seducing a Thai
lady? You only need to be alive and to
have a hotel room. Some would debate whether you have
to be alive.
Honestly appraise yourself before coming to Thailand.
Are you handsome? Wealthy? A
good conversationalist? How old do
you really look?
Are you a pickup virtuoso in your own nation?
Cultures differ across borders but your inner reality
doesn't. If you're a dufus in your homeland who
frightens away women, a typical Thai women will be no more keen on you.
The difference is that the Thai woman, to get something out
of you, may feign interest. If females shun you like a
skunk back home, you should be wary of all the sudden interest in you in Thailand. It's
probably not based on you being a swell fellow, but more on
the girl's perception of your finances. That financial
perception is enough to get your genes passed on to the next
Filter the compliments. They don't
mean much. If you're only out for a one night
cash-for-ass pickup, nothing to worry about. But if
you find yourself falling for seemingly sincere compliments,
such as you being a great-looking man when all the local girls in
Europe, North America, and Australia you've met up till now
think you resemble an ape's cousin, don't kid yourself that
cultural perceptions of looks are all that different in
Thailand. It's a globalized world today. We all
see the same movie stars and read the same fashion mags.
Similarly, don't believe the Thai women when they say you
look 30 when you're actually 50 unless women back in your
own country make the same mistake regularly. A lot of guys
want to fall for this one. I'll admit that I loved it
when girls said I looked 25 and wanted to believe it myself,
but belief alone does not make something true. As an
believing you're a billionaire and then flash your credit
card at the car dealership to pick up a new Rolls Royce.
See how far that gets you.
Put yourself in the Thai woman's shoes.
I don't mean literally in her shoes, although some men do
and relish the very open and vibrant transgender scene in
Thailand. Ask yourself what the girl could be after,
does she have an ulterior motive? If you're in a gogo
bar or brothel, it's clear what the girl is after. If
it's in a more neutral location, question what other factors
might lead this woman to take an interest in you.
Should that reason, if it exists, be superficial, and you're
looking for something more substantial, walk away
Arrange the first date somewhere inexpensive.
However you meet the girl initially, don't
arrange the first date at a swank place. Thai women
usually show up on first dates bringing friends and possibly
family. Some bring along the population of entire
districts. Giving the girl the benefit of the
doubt, the additional company is for her safety. She
doesn't know you from a hole in the wall, and there's
strength in numbers.
The skeptical reason, however, is
that the girl is looking for a free night out for her and
her buddies with Frank Foreigner footing the bill. Observing a Canadian friend of
mine go out on over two dozen dates and hearing the stories
of how svelte Thai women and their contingents would order
gargantuan amounts of food and barely talk to him as they
wolfed it all down, I have to think that, more often than
not, the girls accept the dates just to get something for
free. In the West, a girl won't typically give out her
phone number to a man she has no interest in, not even for a
free dinner. She is more apt to flirt
with a man playfully in a bar venue and get free drinks
there. She won't drag it out further if she has no
real interest, so obtaining a Western girl's phone number is
a minor victory.
In Thailand, collecting phone
numbers is easier than collecting recyclable soda cans.
Everyone is giving them out. Obtaining the number
means next to nothing. The girls may jerk you around a lot
when trying to arrange a date, and even after you arrange it
and she shows up (with her entourage) -- that is, if
she shows up, as being stood up on engagements is rife --
that doesn't necessarily signify interest. If
you arrange a second date and she also brings her friends
along, it's a less promising sign. On a third
date, if she's still bringing everyone in her postal code,
execute a move my Canadian friend put into practice called
the I Scream Maneuver.
As four female spongers were ordering bountiful sundaes at a
delicious ice cream parlor, he said he had to make a trip to
the men's room -- and never came back. He was tired of
Canada dishing out yet more foreign aid without getting
anything in return. The Canadian stock market rose
over 2% as a result.
yourself for this billionaire, halve the woman's
age, and then pretend it's Thailand
Ask yourself what you're looking for. And be honest. Foreign men are attracted by the ease of picking up a Thai woman,
especially if they're eligible for monastery memberships
back home for years of involuntary celibacy service. A generation
ago, Thai women were frowned upon for marrying a foreigner. Today, 90% of those living in Northeastern Thailand say they want their daughters to
marry foreigners. The local women are indoctrinated at a young age to see foreign men as a meal ticket and a life of security.
So make no mistakes -- picking up can be done blindfolded,
drunk, and high simultaneously.
Ironically, because it's so easy to pickup, it becomes
that much more difficult to wade through all your choices to
find someone you really connect with, should you value
Imagine you're a famous movie star in your own country. You'd be besieged by women wanting a piece of you,
but how many of them really want to get to know and be with the true you? You'd just be a symbol to nearly all of them.
Finding a soul mate in Thailand isn't easy.
Fortunately, most men already know that and aren't looking.
Thailand functions best as a place to unite people with the
simplest of needs. She wants security and someone to
fund repairs on her parents' home in Isaan; he wants steady
sex, a handy dishwasher and maid, and someone to take care
of him. The simpler your requirements, the more easily
you'll be satisfied, a lesson that applies down every avenue
in life, not just in the ensnaring of a silky-skinned Thai
Pay the fair market prices if you're a bargirl or
prostitute aficionado. Let's not gloss over
these details. The majority of males coming to the Kingdom embrace this female segment of the population. Rates vary by locale, but a
price outside of Bangkok of around 1,000B for an all-nighter and a 300B
surcharge to rent your sweetie pie out of the bar are
has the greatest cross section of girls-for-hire, from top class Russian glamour girls to ultra disgusting sleaze, with prices varying in each price
category. Ask a a few experienced connoisseurs hanging
around in your venue what they paid last night, last week,
or last hour to have their primal urges satisfied. You'll
soon quickly arrive at the fair market price. Pay the bar
fine up front but don't pay the girl until after services
have been rendered according to your specifications. Because
the prices quoted will seem so cheap by Western standards,
you may be tempted to offer an overgenerous tip. Or the girl
may be such an experienced pleaser of males that she'll have
you believing you're undergoing a girlfriend experience -- known
as a GFE by whoremongers. Don't fall into that trap. When you go to a play at theater and watch superb actors play the roles of thieves and kings, you wouldn't later
treat those actors as real thieves or kings, would you? A girlfriend experience is not the same as having an experience with a real girlfriend.
Remember that! You may click with your rent-a-cutie, and she may push to see you again, but virtually all of the time this is just to extract more
cash from you. A question to ask yourself: as much as this girl (seems to) like(s) me, if I suddenly stopped paying, would she choose to spend her
time with a guy she likes less but who was willing to pay?
That'll quickly bring you back to reality.
The line between a prostitute and an everyday girl is not so
sharply drawn in Thailand. A non-prostitute companion
may ask for gifts or help with the rent, which could equal
or surpass in monetary amounts what you would pay to a
bargirl outright. In a country where you can literally
rent a girlfriend, you could not expect the distinctions to
be so clear. In the West, the closest thing to this
would be hiring an escort girl, but it would not really be
the same. In Thailand, you can pay a lump sump to a
bar, which isn't that much money in the scheme of things,
and permanently keep her as a lover/maid/dishwasher.
As it's so easy to buy a companion, you must vigilantly size
up your own relationship, and if it borders more on the
pay-for-sex variety, outlay enough cash just to cover that.
The Beatles were right when they sang "Money can't buy me
love," although it can buy everything just short of that.
Don't pay for love you're not really getting.
Study those who've come before you.
No matter how old you are, you're not the first foreign man
to set foot in Thailand to seduce a Thai female. Learn
from your forefathers' mistakes. When I was flying to Australia from Bangkok, I sat next to a 53-yr old Australian
man named Marty. Marty had visited Thailand once, picked up teenagers without restriction, begun to see himself as the
and model he wasn't, and then returned to Australia to dump his wife for good and resettle in Thailand.
"Why should I be with that hag when young Thai women flock
to me?" he boasted. One such woman he magnetically
attracted went into business with him. They set up a
restaurant in a food court. Thai law currently
dictates that any business must have at least 51% Thai
ownership. His soul mate became his business
partner, and one day, when he showed up to the workplace, he
discovered the business had been sold and all the assets
absconded by her over the weekend. He'd been
used! I know this story seems farfetched: a
middle-aged or older foreign gentleman being manipulated and
taken advantage of from many angles by a fetching youthful
Thai lass when everyone believed true love had blossomed.
Get the layout of the land before seducing/marrying.
Foreign Women Picking Up
True love straddles all races and
sex-pairings . . . or is she just desperate?
Doug's Republic doesn't discriminate. Foreign women have just as
much right to pick up Thai men as foreign men have to pick up Thai
women. Foreign women as a group, however, choose not to exercise
that right. It is quite rare to see a foreign woman hook
up with a Thai male. We could generalize further and state that it
is seldom one sees a Western woman forming the beast with two backs with
any Asian male. The reasons:
Foreign women, particularly from Western countries, usually grow
up in societies where women have assumed equality or near equality with men.
The women do not have to do as the man demands. They live on their
own, earn their own money, plot their own goals. A Thai man,
accustomed to dealing with Thai women who follow his orders, would not
find a foreign women's behavior amenable and vice-versa.
Thai women are easier for the Thai man to deal with. As a result,
a foreign woman won't find much interest in what the Thai male is offering.
Thai men can seem irresponsible to foreign women.
Of course, men in any country can be irresponsible. In Thailand
though, no one steps in to make them accountable. Journey around
Thailand, and you will encounter scores of Thai women in their early
twenties already raising a toddler, whom they usually pass off to their
own parents to raise. Who's the father? Always some Thai guy
they knew in their past. He bailed out long ago, soon after he
started sleeping with all her friends and acquaintances. He's not
providing child support, not showing up every so often to check on the
child, not sending e-mails or letters. Thailand has no strict laws
on the books binding the man to the children he sires. Thai women
have to put up with this, foreign women do not. And few foreign
women are on the hunt for a man who does what he wants, when he wants,
and leaves the mess in the woman's lap.
The cultural divide doesn't work in the foreign woman's favor.
Foreign men facing that same cultural divide can be with
Thai women because the man is content with different things
in the relationship.
Many of the men coming over to Thailand are retirees, looking for a
beautiful young Thai woman to take care of them -- beauty being
relative, of course. The young Thai juicyfruit is looking for
security and a better life, so a fair exchange is made.
Foreign women tend to want to form an emotional connection with the men
they're with, something very difficult to form with a Thai man who views
relationships with women in a very different light.
The foreign man may not be able to communicate a word with his
'beautiful' partner. He doesn't care. He's too busy
providing her with his DNA samples. A foreign woman is
unlikely to stick around with a Thai male for only sexual servicing unless she's desperate. Thailand is still a man's world, and a
foreign woman quickly finds out she's unnecessary here. She'll
discover that her massive push for equality has pushed her compatriot
males right into the arms of the Asian females. Women in the West have become males -- in thinking, in action,
in behavior, in dress. A Thai male will not find this attractive.
The Asian females, on the other hand, proudly display their feminine
sides. They act like women and treat their partners as men rather
than as strict equals. Foreign men find this very attractive.
With ample local women ready to provide Frank Foreigner hassle-free
company, the foreign man has no need to cast a single glance at the
women craving some kind of attention. If you're intent to connive
guys to buy you drinks like you do back in the West, you'll be leaving
every bar sober. Thailand is not a paradise for foreign women to
live out their fantasies.
The reproductive cycle doesn't work in the foreign woman's favor
either. 75-yr old Thor from Norway moves to
Thailand, and in record time, he's dating and then impregnating a
20-year old Thai female. A few may shake their heads, but it's
become so commonplace to see May-December romances in the Kingdom, no
one is shaking their heads for very long. But if 75-yr old Annica
from Sweden moves to Thailand hellbent on seducing a 20-yr old Thai
male, everyone will be shaking their heads, including all potential
20-yr old Thai males. From a reproductive standpoint, an elder
male-younger female pairing makes some sense, while an elder
female-young male pairing does not.
When you do see a foreign female with a Thai male, there are
extenuating circumstances. The Thai male was educated abroad and
better understands foreign women. Or the two met in Thailand, and
the foreign woman was already well versed in Thai culture before she met
her partner. Or the woman is very unattractive in her own
country but the Thai men don't realize this due to racial perceptions.
Or the Thai man is young and studly and is able to seduce the foreign
woman for a short term scenario only. Thai kiteboarding and
scuba instructors seducing
foreign women for short term pleasure is hardly unknown. Short
term pickups fall outside the analysis written here. Two mismatched people can shack up if
it's only a one night stand. In
the few long term pairings we've seen, the foreign woman appeared to be
the dominant party in the relationship, even the primary breadwinner in
most cases. In general, prior cultural conditioning creates a
better fit among the foreign male-Thai female than the foreign
Thailand is truly a 180 degree turn from the pickup scene in the West.
Back in Western countries, women hold all the power. Men strive to
attract them. A girl can always leave a bar in the company of a
man if she so chooses. In Thailand, it's the (foreign) men who are
sought after. Local girls may seek his attentions for cash or
because he seems affluent. It doesn't really matter why --- the
man can always leave the bar in Thailand in the company of a woman if
that's what he desires.